0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Dear viewer, these subtitles were generated by a machine via the service Trint and therefore are (very) buggy. If you are capable, please help us to create good quality subtitles: https://c3subtitles.de/talk/861 Thanks! 1 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:18,259 So welcome again this morning 2 00:00:18,260 --> 00:00:20,059 in Zida Darkstar. 3 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:21,060 You 4 00:00:22,130 --> 00:00:24,229 got up very early, too, to attend 5 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:26,569 this talk because it's on a very 6 00:00:26,570 --> 00:00:27,739 interesting subject. 7 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:29,300 Many of you, I guess, 8 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:32,959 are already make us or 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,209 our interests linked in making 10 00:00:35,210 --> 00:00:36,560 stuff and modifying 11 00:00:37,610 --> 00:00:39,979 things that the vendor just throws 12 00:00:39,980 --> 00:00:42,329 at you and says, use this 13 00:00:42,330 --> 00:00:44,419 as it is. And you say, no, I want 14 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:46,789 to do stuff that I like with it. 15 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:47,929 And today we have 16 00:00:49,070 --> 00:00:51,499 two people here who think 17 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:53,749 very much like the 18 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:55,669 subject of the talk today is making 19 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:58,999 experts make us and make us experts. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,059 Today with us, our 21 00:01:01,060 --> 00:01:02,479 Donya invest Ilic. 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,068 And he's about to shop. 23 00:01:04,069 --> 00:01:06,169 And the stage is yours. 24 00:01:06,170 --> 00:01:07,170 Thank you. 25 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:14,159 First of all, thanks for inviting us. 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,959 We're actually quite glad because it is 27 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,509 the first time we here on the stage. 28 00:01:18,510 --> 00:01:20,189 And yesterday I was looking through the 29 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:21,599 door and there were so many people, so I 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,819 was really intimidated and bit 31 00:01:23,820 --> 00:01:25,949 afraid. So bear with us. 32 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:30,890 First of all, the title of the talk 33 00:01:31,970 --> 00:01:34,099 experts of us are like other 34 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:36,589 experts, people that irons 35 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:38,749 specific situations that have specific 36 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:41,839 needs, that know exactly what they 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,459 want, what they could need. 38 00:01:43,460 --> 00:01:44,419 What could help them. 39 00:01:44,420 --> 00:01:47,419 What's the situation for them in order to 40 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:48,319 improve their things. 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,659 And is often better details that, like 42 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:52,399 engineers and other people developing 43 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,649 stuff, can't tell. 44 00:01:54,650 --> 00:01:55,700 So we're. 45 00:01:57,540 --> 00:01:59,639 Worked in a way that we brought them 46 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,099 together with makers 47 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:04,619 in order to do in a core creation 48 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:05,909 process right away. 49 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:09,629 The connection 50 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:12,119 of both in order to 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,099 figure out right away what's needed. 52 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:15,479 What could be solutions. 53 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,750 What are ways to do something. 54 00:02:20,510 --> 00:02:22,449 These mergers then, of course, it's not 55 00:02:22,450 --> 00:02:23,799 it's not on the one hand, you have like 56 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,809 users and on the other hand you have 57 00:02:25,810 --> 00:02:28,939 like, I don't know, geeks and 58 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:30,369 makeup people. 59 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:31,509 Of course, they overlap. 60 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:33,639 Like people that we 61 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,739 were working with in the big team was 62 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:37,809 like, we're like developing like 63 00:02:37,810 --> 00:02:39,879 a bamboo wheelchair 64 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,979 or like a like a bike 65 00:02:41,980 --> 00:02:42,789 frame. 66 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:45,069 So. So some people are engineers 67 00:02:45,070 --> 00:02:47,139 and sit in a wheelchair and other people, 68 00:02:48,730 --> 00:02:51,419 you know, make stuff. 69 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:53,279 So. So this is our symbol for 70 00:02:54,610 --> 00:02:57,189 four active makers 71 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,489 in wheelchairs or interested 72 00:03:00,490 --> 00:03:01,490 in wheelchairs. 73 00:03:02,890 --> 00:03:05,049 We want to say 74 00:03:05,050 --> 00:03:07,359 quick word about us 75 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,579 before coming to Berlin 76 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:11,829 last year and getting 77 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:14,379 dragged into this project. 78 00:03:14,380 --> 00:03:16,299 I was in Singapore and was working on a 79 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:18,369 little bit a similar thing 80 00:03:19,510 --> 00:03:21,649 from the broad context there and 81 00:03:21,650 --> 00:03:24,099 Augmented Human Lab as a postdoc, 82 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:26,259 I developed with 83 00:03:26,260 --> 00:03:28,339 people to get a 84 00:03:28,340 --> 00:03:30,489 flashlight or like an indication 85 00:03:30,490 --> 00:03:32,589 start indication light for 86 00:03:32,590 --> 00:03:35,169 people that are swimmers and deaf. 87 00:03:35,170 --> 00:03:36,969 And so in the beginning, they on that one 88 00:03:36,970 --> 00:03:38,499 flashlight on the side. 89 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:40,269 So we made like individual lights that 90 00:03:40,270 --> 00:03:42,549 are compatible with a timing system. 91 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:44,169 And like, you could look at them. 92 00:03:44,170 --> 00:03:46,389 And this was really nice 93 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:48,519 that for me to to 94 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,919 work in this direction. 95 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Yes. 96 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,489 Thanks. And hello from my flat as 97 00:03:56,490 --> 00:03:57,490 well. 98 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:03,119 My professional background is in 99 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,579 industrial design, and I'm 100 00:04:05,580 --> 00:04:07,759 working a lot with facilitating co 101 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,139 creation. And this is why I started 102 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:11,759 working together with Daniel. 103 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,529 Because he brings in this technical 104 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:14,530 perspective. 105 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,639 I brought a little example of a project 106 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,828 that I've been running this 107 00:04:19,829 --> 00:04:21,898 year with my team 108 00:04:21,899 --> 00:04:24,059 from the Aybar. 109 00:04:24,060 --> 00:04:26,679 And it's I think it describes 110 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,709 as these two images describe pretty well 111 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:30,269 what my work is about. 112 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:32,549 It's really about bringing people 113 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:34,739 together at a table 114 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:37,379 with very different perspectives 115 00:04:37,380 --> 00:04:38,380 and 116 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:41,639 have them in a co creation process in 117 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,979 order to change their environment 118 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:45,119 by themselves. 119 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,609 And it's a lot about integration 120 00:04:47,610 --> 00:04:49,859 as well. So these two images 121 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:52,139 that you see here are from a project 122 00:04:52,140 --> 00:04:54,899 that we've been running in a prison 123 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:57,089 or in a forensic clinic where we 124 00:04:57,090 --> 00:04:58,090 were developing 125 00:04:59,790 --> 00:05:01,859 tools and concepts for a 126 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:04,049 better reintegration of the patients. 127 00:05:04,050 --> 00:05:06,419 But today we want to talk about 128 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:07,319 a different project. 129 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,909 And that's where I'm 130 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:10,910 from, a wheelchair. 131 00:05:12,090 --> 00:05:14,129 And Daniel, I already gave us a little 132 00:05:14,130 --> 00:05:16,319 introduction and how we came to this 133 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,989 quite abstract title of 134 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:21,509 bringing together experts 135 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:24,029 and makers and merging them 136 00:05:24,030 --> 00:05:26,459 in order to have the power 137 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:28,619 of both perspectives 138 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:31,049 and profit from each other 139 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:33,149 and to become 140 00:05:33,150 --> 00:05:35,219 critical mass to design stuff 141 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:36,619 together. 142 00:05:36,620 --> 00:05:38,009 It made for my future. 143 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,159 We were designing. 144 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,349 Do it yourself. Add ons that 145 00:05:43,350 --> 00:05:44,549 were distributed. 146 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,859 Open source. Be open source. 147 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:47,910 And they have been 148 00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:50,909 designed in this core creation process 149 00:05:50,910 --> 00:05:53,779 where we had seven wheelchair users, 150 00:05:53,780 --> 00:05:55,859 a few make cars that were changing 151 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:58,139 here and there. And some designers 152 00:05:58,140 --> 00:05:59,429 leading the team. 153 00:05:59,430 --> 00:06:01,499 It was financed by the 154 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:02,999 blender's minutes Dhoom of Build on 155 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,519 Futral and 156 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,069 run in Fab Lab Berlin, together 157 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:09,809 with our 158 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,869 nonprofit organization called Be Able 159 00:06:13,870 --> 00:06:16,469 Inspired as inspiration for 160 00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:18,659 running. This project came 161 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:20,189 from our friend Hower 162 00:06:21,390 --> 00:06:22,390 who. 163 00:06:23,630 --> 00:06:25,819 Bought himself a 3D printer and 164 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:27,919 just started experimenting with it. 165 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,690 And we found this 166 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,869 very interesting and 167 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:34,169 we talked together with Sam and we 168 00:06:34,170 --> 00:06:35,839 thought, man, there are so many. 169 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,389 There are so many possibilities in using 170 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:39,760 maker technologies. 171 00:06:40,940 --> 00:06:44,099 And this 172 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:45,559 software. 173 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,629 We should give 174 00:06:47,630 --> 00:06:49,939 more access to to this 175 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:50,940 technologies. 176 00:06:51,890 --> 00:06:54,200 And as some other friends of us 177 00:06:55,250 --> 00:06:57,379 were running the fibular Berlin, 178 00:06:57,380 --> 00:06:59,449 we just put all this stuff together and 179 00:06:59,450 --> 00:07:00,800 made a project out of it. 180 00:07:02,930 --> 00:07:05,119 And now we would like 181 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,589 to give you a super short. 182 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,399 So you're a short video that 183 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,619 tells pretty much about the project. 184 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:14,839 And then it's our plan to give 185 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,899 you some insights in the process, 186 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:18,979 how we put that up. 187 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:20,959 And also, we want to talk a bit about one 188 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,970 of our results. 189 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,760 On. 190 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,909 My name is credit card. 191 00:07:35,910 --> 00:07:37,919 My husband even gets a job, I almost 192 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,439 building an active history 193 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,929 includes your own legal pad 194 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:45,279 on fitness. That's why you live by bike, 195 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,369 not me. Doesn't Lutzes 196 00:07:47,370 --> 00:07:49,849 I could make a pretty damn 197 00:07:49,850 --> 00:07:50,850 quick. 198 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:58,609 I know, I know. It was marvelous. 199 00:07:58,610 --> 00:08:00,939 Is just team up the noise, the noise. 200 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:02,959 No, of that's besides intercom, which 201 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,059 employs about that. 202 00:08:05,060 --> 00:08:06,649 It's like it seems. 203 00:08:06,650 --> 00:08:07,819 It's been, Nikolo. 204 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:09,879 It's a fun way to fund this kept 205 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,229 happening. And given that fabulous 206 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:14,479 gifts of their guns, Sunbird pointed 207 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,909 out hot dogs. Someone would to get time 208 00:08:15,910 --> 00:08:17,509 of getting elicitation. 209 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:19,679 So much be laser cut by the guards 210 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,199 and save if. 211 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,019 It's been hanah but Swenson's Yatta. 212 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:25,379 I still gotta buy this thing 213 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,529 on an employee act made for my which had 214 00:08:27,530 --> 00:08:29,679 broken out of it in the budget. 215 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,019 So not to add ons. 216 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:32,879 Some blasted is finished or set to. 217 00:08:36,450 --> 00:08:38,359 Spillway way, it's been designed that by 218 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,308 be able Indian Point. 219 00:08:40,309 --> 00:08:43,069 I fear and into discipline 17 220 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:45,909 fun design on harsh to a farm on tension 221 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:47,879 and refining and is often megatons. 222 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,569 I don't think it's in their makeup yet. 223 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:52,259 I just happened to mention if you need 224 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:54,269 pattern, that's easy to measure. 225 00:08:54,270 --> 00:08:56,869 The two golf let never mentioned 226 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:59,479 the likes to gamble likes to style home 227 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,379 using the Duplass Nadol something Dean 228 00:09:01,380 --> 00:09:03,719 and it would be clad in Wudinna 229 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,979 as best as Papillote 230 00:09:06,980 --> 00:09:07,609 and then matri. 231 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:09,719 I am on dozens of times the 232 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,459 infinite human outsmarts and Eigen head 233 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:12,019 chef. 234 00:09:12,020 --> 00:09:13,529 Yeah, yeah. And the little component in 235 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:15,449 David Cymbeline is left to Paul Nicholson 236 00:09:15,450 --> 00:09:16,929 being responsible. 237 00:09:16,930 --> 00:09:18,629 You don't. I'm to be guns in boxes. 238 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:21,109 I'm on bone guns is open source. 239 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:23,509 So I still couldn't as a woody 240 00:09:23,510 --> 00:09:26,219 heuser as all effective 241 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:27,979 and not quite good. 242 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:29,369 Gavin specialized in their far flung 243 00:09:29,370 --> 00:09:31,839 unwashed word and double life 244 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,049 and pledged Jewish man of a testing 245 00:09:34,050 --> 00:09:34,619 hungry. 246 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:36,519 The antipollution extended. 247 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,589 But so does M&A sliced 248 00:09:38,590 --> 00:09:40,919 income into a 249 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,879 team that buys 250 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,230 you dinner and a good LCN leaking 251 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:49,749 my prize winning, I probably does double 252 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:51,449 life on Monday. 253 00:09:51,450 --> 00:09:53,489 I'll tell you what it does is that I am 254 00:09:53,490 --> 00:09:55,209 to cool down a month. 255 00:09:55,210 --> 00:09:57,209 What makes us dumb? 256 00:09:57,210 --> 00:09:59,419 Yeah. Blow us here 257 00:09:59,420 --> 00:10:01,819 has to become us all to bomb 258 00:10:01,820 --> 00:10:03,269 then Sudan. On foot. I need to deal. 259 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:03,859 Will do, Alice. 260 00:10:03,860 --> 00:10:06,749 And you do that and cancel NASA's with 261 00:10:06,750 --> 00:10:08,989 constant Setliff motto for Tottington 262 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:11,149 machine both ocean Vistage quarters 263 00:10:11,150 --> 00:10:13,689 Beloit or said skip 264 00:10:13,690 --> 00:10:15,419 school kids. 265 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:17,570 Al-Assaf man tutors. 266 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:51,190 So 267 00:10:52,590 --> 00:10:54,689 this video we've produced in the end in 268 00:10:54,690 --> 00:10:58,169 order to share, but before 269 00:10:58,170 --> 00:11:00,329 to share, it was a lot of people, as 270 00:11:00,330 --> 00:11:01,859 you saw, there was an open call in the 271 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:02,860 end. 272 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,849 But before there was like one 273 00:11:05,850 --> 00:11:09,059 year of preparing 274 00:11:09,060 --> 00:11:12,449 this for this moment and basically 275 00:11:12,450 --> 00:11:13,949 or even longer, actually, because the 276 00:11:13,950 --> 00:11:15,149 planning was before. 277 00:11:15,150 --> 00:11:17,249 Basically, we have we had three 278 00:11:17,250 --> 00:11:18,600 phases in this project. 279 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:21,569 And the first phase was the skulled 280 00:11:21,570 --> 00:11:23,939 phase, where 281 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:25,979 it was very dear to us to find the right 282 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:28,019 people to be in this project. 283 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:30,239 So we were looking 284 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,609 through different channels. 285 00:11:32,610 --> 00:11:35,159 We spoke to a lot of people to compose 286 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,229 a diverse team of people who 287 00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:39,359 were creative but also had certain 288 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,119 skills and had certain needs. 289 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,989 And we invited them to come to the Fab 290 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:46,139 Lab and to the Maker Faire 291 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,509 for First Hecate one. 292 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:50,879 And the first phase was also 293 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,189 about the need 294 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:55,349 finding and producing 295 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:58,079 a lot of ideas of 296 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,679 a really wide range. 297 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:01,619 The second phase was really about 298 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:04,169 concentrating and focusing a bit more 299 00:12:04,170 --> 00:12:06,119 in the making. 300 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,319 We had a elfa making phase and a bit of 301 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,870 making making phase. 302 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:13,649 And we had a lot of iterations 303 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:14,650 and testings. 304 00:12:15,510 --> 00:12:17,999 And the third phase was the sharing, 305 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,979 the publishing and the distribution of 306 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:21,030 the results with 307 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:25,259 instructions and 308 00:12:25,260 --> 00:12:26,940 a lot of things to consider. 309 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,959 So the first day 310 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,019 was really about meeting as 311 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:35,500 a group and 312 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:39,399 understanding the needs of of 313 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,099 our team, of the seven wheelchair 314 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:44,379 users that we chose or that that 315 00:12:44,380 --> 00:12:46,839 came together to 316 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,219 to do this. 317 00:12:48,220 --> 00:12:49,869 And we really started from scratch. 318 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:52,599 So we didn't have any clue about what 319 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,369 products would come out of this product. 320 00:12:54,370 --> 00:12:56,529 We knew there would be product 321 00:12:56,530 --> 00:12:58,779 that was our scope to design them, but 322 00:12:58,780 --> 00:13:00,759 we had no idea what they were about. 323 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,919 And after we had this 324 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,019 first visualization that 325 00:13:05,020 --> 00:13:07,209 you saw on this right image 326 00:13:07,210 --> 00:13:10,799 there, we came overnight 327 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,319 to four different clusters 328 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,749 that we saw. There's a lot of potential 329 00:13:16,750 --> 00:13:18,309 to ideate into these. 330 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:20,539 So, two, to find ideas and 331 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:21,669 Zellous clusters. 332 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:24,159 That was transport and storage, 333 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,559 especially transport. 334 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:26,560 Because. 335 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:31,899 Because, for example, 336 00:13:31,900 --> 00:13:34,209 shopping as it is really difficult for 337 00:13:34,210 --> 00:13:36,909 for people in wheelchairs very often 338 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:39,039 or they have assistants that 339 00:13:40,270 --> 00:13:42,519 when they when they have an electric 340 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,739 wheelchair, they 341 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:46,869 kind of have a different speed walking 342 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:48,429 next to each other. 343 00:13:48,430 --> 00:13:50,679 Very related to this was 344 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,360 the topic of human interaction. 345 00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:55,989 How to bring people on eye level 346 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:57,759 when one is sitting in a wheelchair and 347 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,799 the other one is standing on its chair. 348 00:14:00,850 --> 00:14:01,850 How? 349 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,989 Yeah. The second topic 350 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:08,399 on line is whether 351 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,499 particularly working with 352 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:14,499 really bad weather conditions like snow 353 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:16,779 and the winter and also 354 00:14:16,780 --> 00:14:17,899 connected to this. 355 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:20,109 What's the topic of night lighting 356 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:22,299 being seen and seeing in the darkness? 357 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:26,419 And with these topics, we we went 358 00:14:26,420 --> 00:14:28,769 to the Maker Faire 359 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:30,919 in 2016 and we even 360 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,109 invited some more people to do 361 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:35,269 that to our tables 362 00:14:35,270 --> 00:14:38,059 and we provided them with materials 363 00:14:38,060 --> 00:14:40,129 and paper and pens 364 00:14:40,130 --> 00:14:43,039 and became really wild and prototyping 365 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,209 and ideating. 366 00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:45,559 So this was. 367 00:14:48,910 --> 00:14:51,689 This whole day and this whole 368 00:14:51,690 --> 00:14:53,919 hackathon was just about 369 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,229 finding as many solutions as possible 370 00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:57,789 for the needs that we had discovered 371 00:14:57,790 --> 00:14:58,959 before. 372 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,149 And as you see here, we haven't 373 00:15:01,150 --> 00:15:03,309 just been visualizing 374 00:15:03,310 --> 00:15:04,329 with pens. 375 00:15:04,330 --> 00:15:06,309 We also had like these little plastic 376 00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:08,669 wheelchairs that we 3-D went 377 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:10,629 3D printed beforehand that could be 378 00:15:10,630 --> 00:15:12,909 equipped with little models of 379 00:15:12,910 --> 00:15:15,309 things that we were wishing to have. 380 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:19,640 There are a few more. 381 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:23,289 So we were physically 382 00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:25,090 trying to make the stuff 383 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,869 that we were imagining 384 00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:30,820 that could be cool with. 385 00:15:32,530 --> 00:15:35,889 Yeah. Was found objects was 386 00:15:35,890 --> 00:15:37,959 rough materia and it was going 387 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,389 really fast for a big 388 00:15:40,390 --> 00:15:41,439 quantity of things. 389 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,359 The little one on the left of the little 390 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,549 image is the telescope lamb, 391 00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:46,659 for example. 392 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:48,609 Someone wanted the lamp that you can 393 00:15:48,610 --> 00:15:50,259 extend and then you, then you and they 394 00:15:50,260 --> 00:15:53,019 could have this glowing 395 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:55,419 object that shows 396 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:57,519 gives you a light from above as an 397 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,520 example. 398 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,829 Yes, sir. Very low fidelity 399 00:16:02,830 --> 00:16:04,689 prototypes. 400 00:16:04,690 --> 00:16:06,759 For having the possibility to have a 401 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,949 really wide range of 402 00:16:08,950 --> 00:16:10,089 ideas. 403 00:16:10,090 --> 00:16:12,189 And from that, we took it. 404 00:16:12,190 --> 00:16:14,529 We went one step further. 405 00:16:14,530 --> 00:16:16,259 Well, we came to the second phase, which 406 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:17,739 also making phase. 407 00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:20,349 And in a discussion with our 408 00:16:20,350 --> 00:16:22,539 inclusive team, we decided for 409 00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:24,609 three projects that 410 00:16:24,610 --> 00:16:26,229 we wanted to take further in the second 411 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:28,299 phase. That was 412 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:30,399 making snow chains, trying 413 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,689 to make snow chains. 414 00:16:31,690 --> 00:16:32,690 Exactly. 415 00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:36,039 Transportation and lighting. 416 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,040 And we 417 00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:41,109 we had for each of these phases 418 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:42,399 about one months. 419 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,619 And they always started with. 420 00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:46,200 They always started with a 421 00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:49,959 with a camp where the 422 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,669 whole group was together for one or two 423 00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:54,039 days and the fab lab and was 424 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,109 prototyping and 425 00:16:56,110 --> 00:16:57,850 hacking and programing. 426 00:16:59,630 --> 00:17:01,729 And in order to guide us, 427 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:03,019 what's to decide for? 428 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:06,108 We had this design and testing criteria. 429 00:17:06,109 --> 00:17:07,608 Of course, it was really important to 430 00:17:07,609 --> 00:17:08,959 make something feasible. 431 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,608 We wanted to have a result that we can 432 00:17:10,609 --> 00:17:13,159 actually make ascetics. 433 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,229 As you heard from hour and the video were 434 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:17,539 quite important because 435 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:19,848 a lot of stuff that is made 436 00:17:19,849 --> 00:17:22,249 for people with disabilities really looks 437 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:24,199 and screams out that it is for 438 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,328 disabilities. 439 00:17:25,329 --> 00:17:27,769 Not just because you look a little bit 440 00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:29,839 smaller doesn't mean that 441 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,079 you want to have low child style 442 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,309 accessories and so on. 443 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:36,409 So it's kind of like, yeah, there's 444 00:17:36,410 --> 00:17:38,659 like a certain market things 445 00:17:38,660 --> 00:17:40,789 that that really annoy 446 00:17:40,790 --> 00:17:43,089 people that have to use them in a 447 00:17:43,090 --> 00:17:45,019 big way. So styled was like a really 448 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:46,020 important factor. 449 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:49,660 That impact was important, of course, 450 00:17:51,130 --> 00:17:53,199 time and cost for production, which 451 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,239 makes it accessible. 452 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,909 And it's like close to feasibility 453 00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:58,910 as well. In a way. 454 00:18:00,130 --> 00:18:02,439 And also, we wanted to make 455 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,509 sure that the product that 456 00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:05,799 we designed are really 457 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:09,459 doable in a wide 458 00:18:09,460 --> 00:18:11,589 range of epilepsy, not not just 459 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:13,119 in the most fancy ones. 460 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,319 So let's just. 461 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,639 I just want to share some quick 462 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,799 impressions on these camps 463 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,709 where we all sit together and 464 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:27,529 use the laser cutters, uses 3D printers 465 00:18:27,530 --> 00:18:28,970 and did a lot of. 466 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:33,839 Different prototypes and 467 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,029 after these phases, we 468 00:18:36,030 --> 00:18:38,399 always came into intense testing. 469 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,889 But I will give to what you you know, 470 00:18:40,890 --> 00:18:42,930 to save a bit more about the lights. 471 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:47,279 I got I got involved 472 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,589 because it was like talking to Nicholai 473 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:51,389 a lot about it during the process. 474 00:18:51,390 --> 00:18:53,609 And then there was this idea 475 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:55,949 of doing lights and like a camp for 476 00:18:55,950 --> 00:18:57,539 doing lights. And that's where I. 477 00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,069 Really started to be really involved and 478 00:19:03,070 --> 00:19:05,709 like there were like a few 479 00:19:05,710 --> 00:19:07,959 things that that are important. 480 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,689 Like we wanted to have the 481 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:13,059 cases being produced in 482 00:19:13,060 --> 00:19:15,279 in a fab lab context or the electronic 483 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,529 parts needed to be like 484 00:19:17,530 --> 00:19:19,599 easy the accessible from 485 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,899 an external distributor. 486 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:25,419 And like, there are a lot of, like, 487 00:19:25,420 --> 00:19:27,039 tricks that were important. 488 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,759 So one thing it was, of course, like 489 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,669 where where do you attach the things? 490 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:32,499 How do you power them? 491 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:34,830 So. 492 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:36,640 These are examples of 493 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:40,899 how to show them then there was like 494 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:43,239 was mainly about figuring 495 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,260 out good ways to 496 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,430 to make it to do it. 497 00:19:53,940 --> 00:19:54,940 And like. 498 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:58,190 He has already like the. 499 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,369 Testing of it. 500 00:20:03,380 --> 00:20:05,030 So they are like round elements. 501 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:09,979 They're like round elements. 502 00:20:09,980 --> 00:20:12,020 We brought some of. 503 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:14,190 The. 504 00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:16,499 Straight elements they like simply neo 505 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:18,929 picks words, trinket 506 00:20:18,930 --> 00:20:21,389 and one buttons. It's only three parts. 507 00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:23,549 But like making them 508 00:20:23,550 --> 00:20:24,550 actually. 509 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:27,869 Is still quite a challenge to 510 00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:30,329 fit them snugly into their cases 511 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:32,489 without breaking them apart. 512 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:34,379 They were like a lot of things that 513 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:35,380 we're. 514 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:38,739 Try to consider using the two words that 515 00:20:38,740 --> 00:20:41,129 are openly available in Fab 516 00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:42,130 Labs. 517 00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:45,269 So it's like a 3D printed case. 518 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:46,270 There's like 519 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:49,409 it's very smooth in the bottom because 520 00:20:49,410 --> 00:20:51,119 it's like on there heated, made on the 521 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,279 heated plates. It's like the resolution 522 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,009 is nice and the finishing is nicer than 523 00:20:56,010 --> 00:20:57,059 normally. 524 00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:59,219 There's like ways to 525 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:00,899 attach KAB in the 526 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:05,459 zip ties. Yeah. 527 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:06,989 And there are different ways of like 528 00:21:06,990 --> 00:21:08,429 attaching them also. 529 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:10,229 And a nonpermanent way if one wants to 530 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:11,230 remove them again. 531 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:15,989 The cases are 532 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:18,149 like designed and 533 00:21:18,150 --> 00:21:20,219 like in a in a 534 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:22,409 way that they want can also expand them 535 00:21:22,410 --> 00:21:24,569 and manipulate them 536 00:21:24,570 --> 00:21:26,249 from the casing design. 537 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,199 They one going to like the 538 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,119 making process of the things. 539 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,739 And for me, it was like. 540 00:21:38,270 --> 00:21:40,429 It seemed so simple from the 541 00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:41,990 parts or something, and 542 00:21:43,250 --> 00:21:44,509 I thought it would be really nice to 543 00:21:44,510 --> 00:21:45,510 have. 544 00:21:47,150 --> 00:21:48,409 More components. 545 00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:50,809 At least like some way of 546 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:52,479 like sensing something. 547 00:21:53,940 --> 00:21:56,009 You can see how the things 548 00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:58,109 get assembled weird, like if you 549 00:21:58,110 --> 00:22:00,659 have, like two of the stripes 550 00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:02,739 that you saw together, we've figured out 551 00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:04,589 it's really difficult to put them in the 552 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:07,199 case because they always break. 553 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,959 So it's like the attachment 554 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119 parties to something where 555 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,460 one can find improvements. 556 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:27,999 So he had a different 557 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,659 ways of attaching it. 558 00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:31,899 We thought of clips like 559 00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:34,479 brings the SCIP ties, 560 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,959 powers, trip to things and 561 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,130 signs different 562 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,619 ways of doing it. 563 00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:43,989 This is the this is the way 564 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:45,309 that where we thought, OK, it would be 565 00:22:45,310 --> 00:22:47,919 nice to to actually 566 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,349 have some sensor data, for example, like 567 00:22:50,350 --> 00:22:51,999 if you are in the wheelchair and you 568 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,159 speed up and then you suddenly slow down, 569 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,809 that the backlight, for example, could 570 00:22:55,810 --> 00:22:57,160 react in a specific way. 571 00:22:59,030 --> 00:23:01,129 We started working a little bit with, 572 00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:03,349 like BBC Micro 573 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:05,449 Bits, where it's really nice 574 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:07,699 that there are the censors in 575 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:09,049 there. There's like this. 576 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:13,879 School education thing, that is also 577 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,789 like a gym virgin. 578 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:18,619 Open. What's very similar. 579 00:23:18,620 --> 00:23:20,149 And based on that project. 580 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,429 But they also have like that based 581 00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:24,199 on and I have 50 tools so they can 582 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,529 communicate with each other and without 583 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,129 it would be really nice if there were 584 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:30,919 moments where people meet 585 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,869 by accident that have these lights and 586 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:34,769 then suddenly there's like special 587 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:35,770 effects that. 588 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:39,979 Like started, once you meet 589 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:41,969 the person and then you could think of 590 00:23:41,970 --> 00:23:44,369 ways of like more interactive things. 591 00:23:47,610 --> 00:23:49,679 Or even something simple like the let 592 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,920 go of this winter, Beloit, 593 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,120 the 594 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,780 flower, not the floor alighting. 595 00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:01,479 And and it's connected 596 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,589 to a temperature sensor. 597 00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:04,739 And then you then you have like 598 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:06,369 you also have, like, this indication of 599 00:24:06,370 --> 00:24:09,039 how warm or cold it is and like like 600 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,199 so there's a lot of things that one 601 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,269 could imagine and where one could push it 602 00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:15,579 further. But like at the workshops 603 00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:17,889 that we ran, for example, that they had 604 00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:19,990 KIYA in Dusseldorf 605 00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:25,359 was very obvious that they'd like making 606 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,129 such a thing, even with the prepared 607 00:24:27,130 --> 00:24:29,289 cases in advance by 608 00:24:29,290 --> 00:24:31,569 like so doing the things if 609 00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,759 you don't have like soldiering experience 610 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,339 and do this every day and then programing 611 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:38,649 them as already, like a huge time 612 00:24:38,650 --> 00:24:40,929 frame and like adding extra 613 00:24:40,930 --> 00:24:42,879 components would need to be like really 614 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,799 like a like a second further. 615 00:24:47,740 --> 00:24:50,139 Step and we decided 616 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:51,199 to leave the better here. 617 00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:55,009 Outside also for simplicity, 618 00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:56,719 but also because, like in many 619 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,900 wheelchairs, there's like 620 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,699 especially with electric wheelchairs. 621 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:03,759 There's often like a like a USP 622 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,809 part that one can connected to and 623 00:25:05,810 --> 00:25:07,309 powered from there. 624 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:08,310 And. 625 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:10,950 The. 626 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:13,389 Like many, many, which are you there 627 00:25:13,390 --> 00:25:16,149 simply have like a like a POW up 628 00:25:16,150 --> 00:25:18,359 bank under the seat. 629 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,629 So it's seemed like a good, good way 630 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:22,130 of doing it. 631 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:25,459 You know, maybe a few quick 632 00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:28,069 last words about sharing, 633 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:29,809 because that was the last phase and it 634 00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:32,709 was also very dear to us, too. 635 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:34,639 It's really distributes the information 636 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,660 about this product 637 00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:38,209 in order to do that. 638 00:25:38,210 --> 00:25:40,279 We put some instructions on 639 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,299 Instructables. 640 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,399 Even one of price was hit 641 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,029 last week or two weeks ago. 642 00:25:46,030 --> 00:25:47,900 Reese and I could 643 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:49,980 show you this. 644 00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:52,759 We also set up a Web site. 645 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:56,460 And. 646 00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:59,069 Most important, we started running 647 00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:01,469 workshops on how to build 648 00:26:01,470 --> 00:26:03,569 the lies and also another product that we 649 00:26:03,570 --> 00:26:04,740 developed in this workshop. 650 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,489 And we started doing this on 651 00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:10,949 fairs and also in for an 652 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:12,719 hour in the fall of Berlin. 653 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,199 But we also 654 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,909 constructed some instructions, very 655 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:20,789 simple ones, to make fab leps 656 00:26:20,790 --> 00:26:22,979 know about the possibility 657 00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:25,419 of giving 658 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:26,759 those workshops themselves. 659 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,339 They are so far self explanatory 660 00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:31,829 and also to to motivate 661 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:33,989 people with wheelchairs 662 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:36,119 to start groups, to 663 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,639 have their own workshops 664 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,659 and talk to Fab Labs. 665 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:42,779 And it's usually mostly even if you 666 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:44,849 can technically like all the other stuff, 667 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:46,799 like make it only makes sense to come 668 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,109 together basically in the fab lab. 669 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:50,759 And they have the tools and they have 670 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,109 like also the knowledge and have some 671 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:54,419 other people that can hold something for 672 00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:55,579 bitterns on zeds. 673 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:58,169 Do we really want to encourage Fab Labs 674 00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:00,269 and people who would like to 675 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:02,399 build something to self organize 676 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,729 and like use these tools in order to 677 00:27:05,730 --> 00:27:07,839 make Loku events simply 678 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,899 a tool to build the things and 679 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:10,900 to. 680 00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:12,849 Now, shared experiences. 681 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,349 And we also have a bigger vision, 682 00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:19,180 and that's 683 00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:22,319 already started with us or we started 684 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,579 working on that. 685 00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:25,439 We've really figured out in this project 686 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,629 that there's a lot of potential to bring 687 00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:29,339 together makers and 688 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,179 use experts and 689 00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:34,180 match them. 690 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:37,859 And now we really would 691 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:40,199 like to start working on a platform 692 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,259 that brings together all sorts of needs, 693 00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:45,359 people needs, people's needs 694 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,909 and collects, 695 00:27:47,910 --> 00:27:50,099 needs and ideas 696 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:52,259 and projects in order 697 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:55,109 to have more products 698 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:57,839 that can be found and distributed. 699 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,969 Because there is I mean, there's a lot of 700 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:01,109 platforms around, 701 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,869 but none really covers 702 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:05,870 this specific 703 00:28:07,290 --> 00:28:09,869 topic area in a concentrated way. 704 00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:12,539 So we would also be really curious, too, 705 00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:14,729 too, if someone has experience from 706 00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:16,859 like open source software development. 707 00:28:16,860 --> 00:28:19,589 Like how one could do projects 708 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:21,689 that are hardware based and 709 00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:23,859 like collect them, but then 710 00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:25,739 also split them in single tasks. 711 00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:27,509 Because I think there are so many people 712 00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:29,849 that would like to happen 713 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:32,069 individually with with a certain solution 714 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:34,349 by like designing a case or by like 715 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:35,819 making electronics, designing 716 00:28:35,820 --> 00:28:37,619 electronics, thinking about the things 717 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:38,620 and. 718 00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:40,709 But we think it would be good if there's 719 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:42,929 like a like a way that people 720 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:45,179 don't have to physically necessarily come 721 00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:45,569 together. 722 00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:46,919 But one can simply, like, sit at the 723 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,989 computer and like give 724 00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:51,329 a few hours whenever one feels like 725 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:53,219 in that time slot and then 726 00:28:54,450 --> 00:28:57,029 make something happen by one really knows 727 00:28:58,050 --> 00:29:00,149 what it's four words for and what it's 728 00:29:00,150 --> 00:29:01,709 trying to solve. And then also gets 729 00:29:01,710 --> 00:29:03,539 feedback afterwards of 730 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,629 how people can use it if it if it helps 731 00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:08,570 them. What improvements there still are. 732 00:29:10,190 --> 00:29:12,259 So please feel free to 733 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:14,089 come and connect to this project 734 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:16,849 and bring it to life with us. 735 00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:19,039 We also brought some stickers 736 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,859 and postcards. 737 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:23,959 So I think we should open 738 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,089 now for the discussion or if there's 739 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:27,949 any questions, you're kind of done with 740 00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:28,950 the time, right? 741 00:29:30,890 --> 00:29:32,149 Oh, maybe not. 742 00:29:32,150 --> 00:29:34,279 And you can meet us wherever we will be 743 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,619 here today, tomorrow, 744 00:29:36,620 --> 00:29:37,429 on Saturday. 745 00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:40,519 And we would be very happy to connect. 746 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,719 There's a question. 747 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,699 You have a mobile microphone. 748 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:44,700 Oh, yes. 749 00:29:45,530 --> 00:29:46,819 Thank you so much. 750 00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:48,049 First thing would be. 751 00:29:48,050 --> 00:29:50,419 Thank you very much for your talk. 752 00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:51,589 And it was. 753 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:58,039 So we have time for, like, one question. 754 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,770 There was a question, okay. 755 00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:02,829 Come on, Calvin. 756 00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:05,329 Fuck me, Cofan da 757 00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:07,479 fun in my view. 758 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,480 A few years. 759 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,280 Whatever 760 00:30:24,650 --> 00:30:25,999 I do, it's not right. 761 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,790 It's Western, but it's also 762 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:31,270 actually a remark, two wrongs. 763 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,499 I noticed that there are many rude just 764 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,859 driving around without the 765 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:39,929 people in it. 766 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:42,009 It's becoming mainstream to drive 767 00:30:42,010 --> 00:30:44,079 around in all sorts of 768 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,999 stuff like PR 769 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,309 moods and 770 00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:50,959 moods and so on. 771 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,379 And the spread is awesome. 772 00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:55,599 So I got rant. 773 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,989 I've read that driving mainstream 774 00:30:58,990 --> 00:31:01,389 and I really enjoy looking at it 775 00:31:01,390 --> 00:31:03,009 and make me some ideas. 776 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:06,669 And the other verse and that I 777 00:31:06,670 --> 00:31:08,889 experience that there 778 00:31:08,890 --> 00:31:11,369 are magazines coming in these days. 779 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:12,339 Yeah. Yeah. 780 00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:14,549 Yeah. Project. And there is access 781 00:31:14,550 --> 00:31:16,819 and tons in compline for. 782 00:31:16,820 --> 00:31:19,119 There is. It comes. 783 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,889 And I find it very exciting that 784 00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:24,129 there is so much going on dates 785 00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:26,419 and I'm really hopeful that this 786 00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:27,420 is 787 00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:31,359 going on for a long time and that there 788 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,499 are many coming out 789 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:34,589 of work. 790 00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:36,049 Right. 791 00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:38,589 And through your offer here at the 792 00:31:38,590 --> 00:31:40,869 surgery, is you free some 793 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:42,419 kind of workshop? 794 00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:44,729 Well, I think you 795 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:46,969 put our hands into work and 796 00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:49,239 maybe it's natural light, because 797 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160 I want to be very interesting in some. 798 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,699 We haven't prepared 799 00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:59,920 this yet, but we should talk 800 00:32:02,110 --> 00:32:03,779 in a minute and figure out. 801 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:06,219 We can we can make something I can hear. 802 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:08,709 And like we've probably 803 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:10,269 missed missed some parts, but we can at 804 00:32:10,270 --> 00:32:11,650 least think about it and, like, 805 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,039 develop it a little bit further and make. 806 00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:18,029 Thank you. 807 00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:18,629 Yes. 808 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:20,769 If it doesn't happen here, there will be 809 00:32:20,770 --> 00:32:22,959 a workshop on the 20th of January 810 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,050 and February Berlin. 811 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,049 And everybody is warmly welcome to that. 812 00:32:28,050 --> 00:32:30,159 Yeah. We had discussed 813 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,679 doing a workshop and somehow I've got 814 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,859 under the stress 815 00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:36,249 of Christmas and everything. 816 00:32:36,250 --> 00:32:37,839 And no, he didn't. We don't have our 817 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,399 suitcases full of platoons. 818 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,039 But let's see what we can do. 819 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,129 Thank you, sir. 820 00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:44,049 OK, very good. 821 00:32:44,050 --> 00:32:46,189 Let's think I'll speak us again and go 822 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:47,260 one of the across.